Negotiating Your Credit Rating On A Collection

If you are dealing with a collection account, you want a complete removal (a deletion) from your credit report, however, NOT a “Paid As Agreed”. Any notation on your credit report from a collection agency is considered negative, so even if the listing read, “this person has the best paying record we’ve ever seen”, it would hurt your score.

If you are dealing with an account which has been placed in , you now have two negative listings (in most cases) appearing on your credit report – the collection and the original creditor. If the original creditor refuses to deal with you and sends you to the collection agency, it’s very difficult to get the original creditor to remove the negative mark. But impossible? No. You need to get the collection agency to agree to remove their listing entirely from your report and have the original creditor change the rating to “Paid As Agreed”. At the very minimum, you are within your legal rights to demand the removal of the collection account from your report.

If you did manage to settle with a collection agency – congrats! – you can tell the original creditor you settled the debt and you want this reflected on your account rating. The original creditor is obliged to report accurate information, and hey, “settled” is the true rating. A rating of “Settled” on your credit card listing is much easier on the credit score than “Charged off”.

Remember, though, not all result from credit cards. Doctor’s bills cannot appear on your report, but resulting from these accounts can.

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Tips on Paying Once You Have Agreed On a Number

Payment plans

Keep in mind that most collection agencies will insist on payment in full. They will negotiate a payment plan if that’s the best they think can get, but it’s not to your advantage. Usually you can pay on it forever and never make it disappear. This is because the collection agency will keep tacking on interest and fees. In addition, collection agencies are terrible at keeping track of payments. On purpose maybe? I’ve talked to numerous clients who made over a year’s worth of payments and their balances did not go down at all.

If you can’t come up with a cash settlement, I would suggest sending the collection agency a or cease and desist letter to keep them off your back until you can scrape together the money. It’s really not a good idea to make payments to a collection agency over an extended period of time.

The debt validation procedure is a whole eBook on its own and will not be covered here. Free information about debt validation is available here:

http://www.creditinfocenter.com/rebuild/debt_validation.shtml

A cease and desist letter is included in Sample Letters & Forms. Under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, if a consumer sends a written cease and desist notice to a collection agency, the collection agency is not allowed to call or write the consumer regarding a particular collection account.

If you do negotiate a payment plan, it is to your benefit to negotiate a short repayment period

The shorter period of time you pay off the settlement, the less time they have to tack on fees and otherwise drag things out to their advantage.

What if I can’t make the payments/cash offer I negotiated?

You’re kidding, right? If you really have doubts that you will not be able to make the payments or lump sum payment on a settlement deal you have negotiated, it is best to agree to one you are confident fits into your family’s budget.

The consequences of defaulting?   Once you have a new written promise to pay (your settlement offer), you will have reset the statute of limitations. In addition, if you default on a payment or settlement offer, the collection agency may sue you.

Form of Payment

Never disclose where you work or bank.

If you are asked, simply say “no comment”. The reason for this: If your settlement falls through, and the creditor gets a judgment against you, knowing where you bank or work will make it easy to collect the judgment.

Make sure you get the money order at the post office, or else get it or a cashier’s check from a bank other than your own

How you make payments is very important, as it protects you from other creditors learning about your financial status and bank account numbers. For this reason, never send a personal check. Get a cashier’s check or money order. Make sure you get the money order or cashier’s check from a different bank than your own bank or the post office.

Never pay your settlement with “Check By Phone” with a collection agency

“Check By Phone” is a procedure where you give your creditor your checking account number and they deduct an amount from your checking account.

Paying via check by phone is the very worst thing you can do when paying a collection agency. It gives your creditors full access to your checking account – I’ve heard more than one story where more than the agreed amount was removed from a checking account.

Make sure you keep a copy of your money order or cashier’s check and put it in a safe place! Collection agencies keep notoriously bad records and it’s your word against theirs if you say you paid and they said you didn’t…unless you have the copy of the money order or cashier’s check.

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How To Contact A Collection Agency

Never contact a collection agency by phone. Never! Collection agents are not trained to settle with you, they are paid to collect money, and they will say anything to get you to pay. You are opening yourself up to possible abuse, which though it is illegal, is extremely common.   If you say the wrong thing to a collector in the heat of the moment, it could ruin your chances for a good settlement in the future.

Letters are the best way to contact a collection agency. You want to send the letter certified, signature required so you have a paper trail to follow during the settlement procedures. Believe me, you might need it. Some are starting to refuse certified mail if they think the letters might be part of your gaining the legal upper hand, but there is a way around this. Mark the envelope “Payment enclosed”. This is sure to get them to accept and open the mail.

If you know the fax number, I would also fax your settlement offer to the collection agency. There are many services available which offer a “certified” delivery of the fax receipt, which is almost as good as the certified letter receipt.

What if the collection agency contacts me first and makes an offer?

Sometimes (though this happens VERY rarely with a collection agency) you may be contacted via phone or letter and with an offer to settle. When this happens, you can be sure that you can get a better deal than the one offered. If this contact is by phone, listen carefully; get the rep’s name and direct telephone number and the company address to which you will be sending your settlement.

After you get off the phone, or review the letter, come up with your own offer and the use the sample letter “Counter Offer” in Sample Letters & Forms.

How much to offer

First of all, make sure you can back up any offer you make with real cash. To figure out how to get blood out of a turnip, we offer some suggestions further down in this booklet.

To give you some background, most bad debt companies pay or receive literally pennies on the dollar for the debts on which they are trying to collect. The amount that companies pay for bad debt depends on the type of account and its age:

•     Debts that have recently been charged off: 6 to 7 cents on the dollar.
•     Accounts that are slightly older and on which a collection agency or two has already taken a whack: 1.5 cents to 2 cents on the dollar.
•     Years-old, out-of-statute debts: A penny or less.

With this in mind, you should always start your offer at 25% or less. Let’s understand the math here. If your debt is $1000, let’s say at the most, the have paid or will collect 7 cents on the dollar, or $70. If you offer them $250 (25%), they are still making a profit of $180. Remember, the credit card companies are out of the picture at this point. This money goes directly to the .

Other things to remember in collection agency negotiations:
1.   We’ve already said this, but it bears repeating. NEVER talk to a collection agency on the phone. Period.

2.   Penalties and extra interest are typically fictitious amounts of money added on by the collection agency to pad their profits. I’ve seen as much as to 50% of the debt or more claimed to be owed by a collection agency consisting of interest and fees. Example: Recently, I talked to a guy who had his $5000 original debts balloon up to $11,000 in less than 3 years. This is illegal; every state has usury laws (which dictate the maximum interests allowed to be charged.) If you consider the junk debt buyer paid 7 cents on the dollar or less, there is no way there is this much interest. Most companies would be thrilled to get you to pay the original debt even without the extra penalties they add on and will usually be more than agreeable in waiving these fees.

3.   Time is on your side. Unlike your negotiations with the original creditor, where you are racing the clock to prevent the account going into collection, the older the debt, the better. As time passes, the creditors will likely stop calling and the debt will be filed away for future attention. The longer the debt remains uncollected, the better your chances will be of getting a good settlement. If this is the second or third collector to try and collect, they will accept a very small amount.

4.   Never look too eager to settle. Take plenty of time to reach an agreement. Don’t accept the first, or even second, settlement offer. Make sure that they are the ones calling you to push the deal forward. You cannot expect to reach an affordable settlement if the creditor thinks he has the upper hand. If, for example, you tell a creditor that you really need to get this debt settled to get into your dream home, you can forget any kind of settlement. The creditor will insist on the full balance.

5.   Remind the creditor that the statute of limitations is approaching on the debt and they only have a limited time to deal with you. Know when the statue is up on each debt and be prepared to give the creditor the time line.

6.   Use the threat of bankruptcy. It will be in your best interest if the creditor believes that you have very little money and you are teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. You should approach each creditor as though this is their last chance to compromise, and get something out of your debt, before you declare bankruptcy and they get nothing. Be careful when doing this, however. If you accumulate any more debt after stating this to a creditor, (and they record all of your correspondence and phone calls), you may not be able to discharge this debt within bankruptcy.

7.   Remind the collection agency of the handsome profit they will make even if you only pay 25% of the amount. If your debt is $1000, let’s say at the most, the have paid or will collect 7 cents on the dollar, or $70. If you offer them $250 (25%), they are still making a profit of $180.

8.   Offer to pay more money if the collection agency agrees to remove the listing completely. The collection agency has nothing to gain by reporting the account on your credit report, other than getting you to pay. They are not legally obligated to report this on your credit report as some claim.

If you’re contacted by more than one collection agency for the same debt

If you’re contacted by more than one collection agency for the same debt, it means that the original creditor has hired a secondary or even tertiary collection agency. This indicates that the original creditor and even the first collection agency has given up on you. This means that the second collection agency has paid even less for the debt than the first one. If the agency hasn’t been able to reach you by phone but knows that you are receiving its letters, it may be willing to take even less.

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Debt Settlement Steps – Collection Agency

How do you tell if your account has been turned over to collections? Your credit report is an excellent place to start. If you haven’t already done so, getting a copy of your credit report is crucial. To obtain a copy of your credit report, you may contact the at their websites:

http://www.experian.com
http://www.transunion.com
http://www.equifax.com

If a collection account is not listed on your credit report, then I assume you are reading this document because an agency has either called or sent you a letter, demanding payment.

As with the debt settlement techniques we gave you when dealing with the original creditor, let’s just break this down into manageable steps. You need to determine:

1. Identify debts
2. Check statute of limitations
3. Who to contact
4. How to contact the collection agency
5. How much to offer
6. Tips on paying once you arrive at a number
7. Negotiating your credit rating

Before you attempt to settle a debt, check the statute of limitations

Collectors only have a certain amount of time to sue you for payments. The first thing you should do is to determine if the statute of limitations for collecting a debt in your state have past. If the debt is older than the statute of limitations, you tell the bill collectors they are wasting their time by harassing you for an uncollectible debt, as the original creditor or the assigned collection agency cannot take you to court to get a judgment.

Can the debt still be reported on your credit report?

After 7 seven years (in most cases), a debt will disappear from your credit report. If the reason you want to pay this debt off is to clean up your credit to purchase a home, and you can challenge the debt on your credit report, why pay this off? Your creditors have not bothered to sue you until now, it’s likely that they won’t in the future, either. Credit repair is beyond the scope of this book, but most types negative information come off after 7 years. You can challenge this listing on your credit report and it will come off.

Please note: the amount of time a late payment can appear on your credit report has nothing to do with the statute of limitations. Very important distinction. Even though a debt may no longer legally appear on your credit report after 7 years, you could still be sued for the debt because the statute of limitations for your debt in your state is not up.

If the debt is gone from your credit report AND the statute of limitations is up on this debt, you’re home free!

If enough time has past for both the legal debts collection statutes of limitations and the credit report limitations has passed, don’t worry about the debt! If your debt meets both of these conditions, it is uncollectible and it cannot appear on your credit report! If you get to this point, stop here, you are done! You can stop reading!

Who do you contact?

he best place to look for information on contacting a collection agency is your credit report. We gave the website addresses in the section above.

If you’ve been unable to get the address and/or fax number for the collection agency, here are some on-line resources:

The Better Business Bureau
http://www.bbb.org

http://www.millcbs.com/search.asp
http://www.411collectionagencies.com/AGENCIES US/
http://www.residentagentinfo.com

You could also try your secretary of state, who has a list of all businesses in the state and their contact info. Look up the secretary of state’s number in the phone book or call information.

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